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combining a single coil and humbucker
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Redfish



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: combining a single coil and humbucker Reply with quote

I'm getting ready to start a new build--a double-cut Tele style with a carved top. I would like to do something unusual and put a humbucker in the bridge position and a single-coil Tele-style pup in the neck position.

What's the advice on wiring this? I typically use 500K pots for my bucks and 250s on the singles. I could go with a set of volume and tone for each pup, matching the pots to the pups, but would prefer the simpler single volume and tone and three way switch such as is normally found on a Tele.

Help, guys. My last build is curing and I need to make some dust fly.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That isn't horribly unusual, Im gonna take a guess and say 500k pots, unless the style of music you will mostly play will benefit from 250k pots.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the body and the fingerboard wood... and dynamic focus of the pickups... you can always tweak the pots with resistors to get the tone you want....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go ahead and use 500k. There are a ton of Teles out there that came from the factory with 1Megohm pots, so it won't hurt anything. That's why Leo designed the thing with a tone control. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the pickups. If your humbucker is bright sounding already, you may want to go with a 250k. You can always experiment. If you're building a Tele, I would recommend going with a 4-way switch as well. The 4th position puts the pickups in series and gives you a fatter louder tone.

My 2 cents Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed on the 4 way switch.
ID hooked me up with one for my tele build
and I'm very happy with that extra option......have fun with it!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me three... I love my 4-way switch. It adds a totally different tone to the Tele.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. Can someone post up a quick wiring diagram on the four-way switch?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: 4 way Reply with quote

Just google 4 way tele switch, there is alot of diagrams out there, and on the pot issue, I have used that combo and used 500 K pots with a .o33 mf PIO Cap, worked for me....

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like my G&L Bluesboy. Even though the pickups on your guitar are opposite from the Bluesboy configuration here's what's in mine; 250K volume, 250K Tone, 200pf treble/vol cap , .047 tone cap. Cool

Here's a diagram from the house that George & Leo built: http://www.guitarsbyleo.com/GALLERY2/main.php?g2_itemId=6524

More here: http://www.guitarsbyleo.com/GALLERY2/main.php?g2_itemId=97&g2_navId=x670be353
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For reference, the US Fender Fat Tele (HB in neck) comes with 2 500K pots and a .022 cap.

http://support.fender.com/diagrams/telecaster/0108000_02B/SD0108000_02BPg3.pdf

Here's a boatload of 4 way wiring diagrams, take your pick. Be sure to use your pickup mfr's instructions on what wire are what, which ones go together, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's more like the motherload. Some really neat stuff there.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pretty sure one of the diagram takes you back in time. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again, guys, for all the tips and diagrams. I had not thought of the four-way switch, and now am thinking about just going with the two traditional single coil pups and use the four-way.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 4-way makes a huge difference. With the first 3 positions, I get all the natural Tele twang and such. My pickups are Slider's '52 duplicates. In position 4, I get a ton of growl for rock. It gets nasty quick... in the good way.
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