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Structo



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little Bit wrote:


I like tubes simply because they glow.
That mysterious color which visually confirms that fascinating things are happening on the insides of the box.

I loved that! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play either my '64 Silvertone TwinTwelve, or my '64 Fender Bassman. Period. I have no use for SS. That's just me! Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Struco!

Its true, I have distinct childhood memorys of peering through the backs of radios and thinking "Wow! Somethings going on in there and I need to know about it!"
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little Bit, my parents used to scare me so I wouldn't try to take the back cover off the T.V. and electrocute myself! Being old enough to have been pre-transistor, everything we had glowed inside! Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have owned a few tube amps in my life but have never been totally happy with my tone. I once bought a Marshall JCM-800 because so many people claim how great they are, but I never liked that amp it was very one dimensional and really needed to be cranked or it didn't sound so good.

I have been a higher gain player for all those years so I never owned a fender tube amp until a few years back when someone left a bassman head at my house.

My favorite tube amp that I used over the years was a Peavey Calssic 50 head which I will never sell. It really has a great clean tone and seemes to work with pedals well.

However my main amp now is a Line6 HD147. This amp has a ton of headroom, maybe that helps a SS amp (HD147 is 300 watts) I can get some great higher gain tones as well as some really nice clean. I can use it for my original music band that is hrad rock/alternative and then use it for my classic rock cover band to get some nice classic rock tones.

In the end the amp is just a tool and if it does the job for you then it is the right amp for you.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had (and still have some) tube amps over the years (Deluxe, Twin, etc.) as well as a half-dozen solid states. My take on this never-ending argument is that if you play clean or you want that tube overdrive tone (provided you have the right circuit and tubes), tubing is the way to go. However, if you are using a modeling preamp (e.g. Digitec etc.) a tube amp is wasted.

Most players have way more tube amp than they need (i.e wattage). They want the tube overdrive but when they find out that they have to blow out the neighbor's windows to get the gain to drive the tubes, they get disillusioned. My favorite tubees are low watt, simple circuits with attenuators.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Structo wrote:
As a side note, you simply have to listen the great blues players to hear the tube sound live.
Take Stevie Ray, he can go from a whimper to a growl without touching his amp (that's what I call a good distortion). And good artistry.
Depending on the amp and volume control.
I simply can't state emphatically how much more dynamic a tube amp is,
Meaning you are so much more in control you are of your sounds...........
God Bless Tubes! Very Happy


Can I get an amen, brotha?

Think about it. I can guarandamntee ya that Stevie Ray and Jimi would NEVER have been able to get their tone with a solid state amp. Solid states just sound so harsh and brittle compared to their tube counterparts. Especially where distortion is concerned. To my ears teh distorted tone from a solid state amp is harsh yet from a tube amp it has bite to it yet it still sounds sweet.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything sounds better than my Quaker crystal set I built back in '63, and they are definately ALL louder. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

solid state amps have not ever sounded better than they do at the moment -

but i have yet to hear one that i have liked

in my opinion tube amps just sound warmer and more natural - solid state just sounds to tight and harsh

feel the same way about stereo components , you just cant beat a tube when it comes to mono block or stereo systems .

maybe im just a old stick in mud but thats just my thoughts
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, yes, please resize the avatar......
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this thread was originally posted exactly four years ago. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody's been digging.
Surprised that this thread survived that last purge.... Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry folks

im new here
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much better!

Now I can give you an official, Welcome to the board!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum! That Gretsch is beautiful! Very Happy
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