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Refinishing Squier VM Thinline Tele - advice needed
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What color?
LPB
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
Daphne Blue
72%
 72%  [ 8 ]
Yellow
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Orange
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Red
18%
 18%  [ 2 ]
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tincob



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Refinishing Squier VM Thinline Tele - advice needed Reply with quote

I'm gathering info on how much work would be required to refinish the Squier VM Thinline Tele. It would be my first refinish attempt.

I don't have a Tele at the moment and I actually like the idea of the shorter scale neck. However, I didn't like the Shoreline Gold or the Black finish when I saw them at the store.

After reading the archived posts I'm considering a Duplicolor paint bomb (acrylic lacquer) with Minwax clear (nitro lacquer). I would like to paint on double bindings since I love that look.

I'm considering two ways of stripping the finish: sanding or heat gun.

Sanding would be more work but I would only take it down to the sealer, not to the wood.

The heat gun sounds like less work but I'm leery about the heat on the thinline body top.

Can you guys wade in with some advice?

As far as the finish colors that I'm considering: LPB, Daphne Blue, Orange, Yellow, White, or Red with either cream or white (as appropriate) binding. These would look nice with the rosewood fingerboard. And just for shits & giggles I've posted a poll of the colors (no guarantee that I'll follow the majority Laughing) I guess I'll have to find the closest approximation of the colors available in Duplicolor.

I don't want to sink a lot into my first refinish attempt so no RR stuff.

Thanks for your help.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I chose daphne for 2 reasons. I like the color, and I think it is the easiest color to do out of the ones you listed. Metallics take extra care, and darker colors show more prep flaws.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1. If Duplicolor doesn't have a match for Daphne, Rustoleum Harbor Blue is pretty close (I thought it was closer to Sonic, but now I know better Embarassed ), and you can shoot Deft over it if you're careful.
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tincob



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about the stripping question? Sanding or heat gun?

I know I don't want to touch chemical stripping with a ten foot pole.

I'll see if I can post the kisekae's of all the colors.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

does the body have binding, or are u just taping it off? If it doesn't then heat gun. If it does, be super careful with heatgun. Stay away from the binding.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay here are the links to all the different colored thinlines:

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Thinline/LPBblack.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Thinline/LPBmint.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Thinline/Whiteblack.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Thinline/DBmint.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Thinline/redblack.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Thinline/Orangemint.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Thinline/yellowmint.jpg


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tha LowEnd Theory wrote:
does the body have binding, or are u just taping it off? If it doesn't then heat gun. If it does, be super careful with heatgun. Stay away from the binding.


The Squier VM Thinline is a plain body with the f-hole. There are no bindings. I would consider painting the bindings on just to spiff it up even more beyond the custom color.

So no issues with the heat on the thin top?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daphne+ rosewood= Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tincob wrote:

The Squier VM Thinline is a plain body with the f-hole. There are no bindings. I would consider painting the bindings on just to spiff it up even more beyond the custom color.

So no issues with the heat on the thin top?


In that case definitely a heat gun. Strip it down to the wood. I would paint white as binding, and maybe even around the f-hole. Daphne and rosewood, with a pearloid pickguard.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dakota red, faux binding, tort guard. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was gonna say orange at first but last second I thought Daphne would be more soothing for the eyes.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tin,

Can you tell if the Squire has a laminate top? I'd be nervous using a heat gun on laminate in case the layers separate. Hopefully someone with experience with a Squire Thinline will chip in here but I'd be very cautious with heat.

I've used chemical strippers and to me, it's less obnoxious than sanding which fills the air with nasty dust. Use good ventilation, and lay down aluminum foil on top of the stripper so after an hour or so you peel it up, finish and stripper, and throw the hole thing in the trash.

Just my opinion. YMMV. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonh wrote:
Tin,

Can you tell if the Squire has a laminate top? I'd be nervous using a heat gun on laminate in case the layers separate. Hopefully someone with experience with a Squire Thinline will chip in here but I'd be very cautious with heat.

I've used chemical strippers and to me, it's less obnoxious than sanding which fills the air with nasty dust. Use good ventilation, and lay down aluminum foil on top of the stripper so after an hour or so you peel it up, finish and stripper, and throw the hole thing in the trash.

Just my opinion. YMMV. Good luck.


I don't know about the laminate top. Does anybody know if the Squier thinline has a laminate top?

I thought that most strippers were ineffective on the poly finish. What product would you recommend for stripping poly? The method you suggested sounds less messy than most methods that I read about.

This would be preferable to using the heat gun and having the top board separate from the body from the glue coming loose. Too bad, the heat gun seemed like a good method once you got the hang of it.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marksound wrote:
+1. If Duplicolor doesn't have a match for Daphne, Rustoleum Harbor Blue is pretty close (I thought it was closer to Sonic, but now I know better Embarassed ), and you can shoot Deft over it if you're careful.


marksound,

What should I be aware of / careful about if I was to use the Rustoleum paint & Deft clear combination?

I had read on some posts that Rustoleum paints took too long to set and even then remained a bit soft. Not sure if it's true but that's what I read.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why strip it at all if you are going with a solid color? Just rough it evenly with 220 and 320 and shoot primer and paints.
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