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What wetsanding agent do you prefer?
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What wetting agent do you prefer?
Water
18%
 18%  [ 7 ]
Baby Oil/Mineral Oil
45%
 45%  [ 17 ]
Mineral Spirits (paint thinner)
10%
 10%  [ 4 ]
Naptha (VM&P)
16%
 16%  [ 6 ]
Other, please specify
8%
 8%  [ 3 ]
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RobHale777



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: What wetsanding agent do you prefer? Reply with quote

OK, a show of hands, if you please! When wetsanding, who uses water, who uses baby/mineral oil, mineral spirits, naptha, or something else?

I'm just curious. I've still got a week to wait, and this will be my first try. I understand the concept well enough, but the practice is all still theory for me, so I'm trying to decide between all the available options which one I should use. If you've successfully westanded a RR nitro laquer neck & body, your input would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance for your help!

R
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CharlieStrummond



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, anything I've wetsanded was with water, and listen to the rest of the fellas...it will crack your finish around the screw holes. I didn't care because it was my own, so for someone else's I'm probably going to go with baby oil. My first time wetsanding, it came out great. I started with 1000, and realized it would take a little more elbow grease than I wanted to put in, so I backed down to 800 and sanded lightly. After most of the finish is uniform and matte, and most of the pits are gone, I stepped it up to 1000, then to 1200, all the way up to 2000. I also (don't cringe, guys!) sanded the edges with 2000, being extra careful not to sand through, and it turned out great. So, take your time with it and it will turn out wonderful.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paraffin Oil
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baby oil
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Jai



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far only wetsanded with water, no problems. I've done material finishes tho where the tiny screw holes are covered anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

None. I go straight to the Finesse It II. I'm a chicken when it comes to sand-throughs. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my share of wet sanding w/ water problem (only twice).

Since then, I go through the painstaking of getting a tooth pick and drop fill or rather soak any holes with sand sealer after the last sanding on bare wood.

The just before the wet sanding stage, I plug all holes with plumber's putty.

... => Well I use bluenote's wet sanding / polishing technique Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lighter fluid to date but I will be trying the mineral oil come spring.
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Brad Morehead



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has NOTHING to do with what we are using for wet sanding mediums, but it is relevent.

I read somewhere on the web, (and you know that if it's on the web it MUST be true...)

A guy posted about wet sanding with water. Everyone was like yeah, but it swells the wood blah blah blah.

One guy chimed in that he uses water but... before he does, he uses a candle and drips wax into all of the holes until they are filled, and then goes ahead with wetsanding with water.

Once he is done, he digs the wax out, (larger holes like for bridge studs), or in some cases just leaves it, screws the screw into the holes and lets the screw push it out. He didn't say if he heated the screw before hand to help melt the wax or just screwed it in.

I think this has merit.

I know before I put a screw in a hole for the first time I lube it up with bar soap with moisturizing creme in it, (read Dove), and it does a bang up job of letting the screw slide in with less torque from me and my trusty pry bar, err, screw driver.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fill my holes with beeswax. I recommend beeswax because I've read that soap and some types of candle wax have chemicals that can negatively affect wood. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naked Clarke wrote:
Lighter fluid to date but I will be trying the mineral oil come spring.
Sounds like Jimi Hendrix's (or Rockles' neighbor?) technique at Monterey Pop Festival but he includes flames. Laughing
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Structo



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Houndog wrote:
I fill my holes with beeswax.


Shocked Shocked










I know, 4th grade humor, but I was feeling immature this morning.....
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Structo wrote:
Houndog wrote:
I fill my holes with beeswax.


Shocked Shocked

I know, 4th grade humor, but I was feeling immature this morning.....


Thanks for the laugh... my co-workers are wondering what's so funny. Wink
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Tele Savalas



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you don't use Bondo, either? Laughing

I use water, and just moderate how wet the paper is when I get near the holes. But I like Houndog's idea - then the holes are ready for easy screwing.

Nobody touch that one. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhhh.........nope. Ain't gonna touch touch that one. Laughing
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